" The 10.4.7 Update is recommended for all users and includes general operating system fixes, as well as specific fixes for the following applications and technologies. It includes fixes for:
- preventing AFP deadlocks and dropped connections
- saving Adobe and Quark documents to AFP mounted volumes
- Bluetooth file transfers, pairing and connecting to a Bluetooth mouse, and syncing to mobile phones
- audio playback in QuickTime, iTunes, Final Cut Pro, and Soundtrack applications
- ensuring icons are spaced correctly when viewed on desktop
- determining the space required to burn folders
- iChat audio and video connectivity, creating chat rooms when using AIM
- importing files into Keynote 3
- PDF workflows when using iCal and iPhoto
- reliable use of Automator actions within workflows
- importing and removing fonts in Font Book
- syncing addresses, bookmarks, calendar events and files to .Mac
- compatibility with third party applications and devices
- previous standalone security updates

For detailed information on this Update, please visit this website:
http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n303771.
For detailed information on Security Updates, please visit this website: http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n61798.
(there's also a doc About the security content of the Mac OS X 10.4.7 Update) "

If you find 10.4.7 fixes or breaks anything (include specifics/versions), let me know. Thanks.
(Note: Tiger updates typically break PL CPU Director (and this one does also) - so if you're using it/need it, you may want to wait for an update that's 10.4.7 compatible. Update - they released a 10.4.7/10.4.8 compatible version 2.3b5 on Oct. 3rd, 2006 at www.powerlogix.com/products/cpudirector/.)
Here's the download pages for delta/combo updates for PPC, Intel and Server versions:

• Mac OS X Update 10.4.7 Combo PPC
• Mac OS X Update 10.4.7 PPC
• Mac OS X Update 10.4.7 Combo Intel
• Mac OS X Update 10.4.7 Intel (Note Intel CPU Mac owners should use the Combo Updater until the delta update is revised to include missing OpenGL related files- See notes below)
• Mac OS X Server Update 10.4.7 Combo
• Mac OS X Server Update 10.4.7
• Apple OS X Server Admin Tools 10.4.7

FYI: I've had several problem reports on the 10.4.7 update (printers, Airport connection problems, booting/startup problems) but I've not seen any of those problems on a 2003 G5 updated to 10.4.7 tonight (printing OK to local connected printer (i900D), airport networking OK, etc.) - for those that had problems some noted rebooting a few times helped, some cleared caches and removed 3rd party startup items. (for USB device/printer problems after an update, disconnecting/reconnecting the device may help unless there's a driver compat. issue or corrupted file/prefs.) Reinstalling from a "Combo" update is also worth a try, and check with the developer of any 3rd party startup items/haxies you have installed to verify they're compatible with 10.4.7 - if in doubt try removing them.)

Security Updates for 10.4.7:

• Security Update 2006-004 Mac OS X 10.4.7 Client (Intel) (8/1/2006)
• Security Update 2006-004 Mac OS X 10.4.7 Client (PPC) (8/1/2006)
• Security Update 2006-004 for Mac Pro and Mac OS X Server v10.4.7 (Universal) (8/9/2006)

Reader Reports on 10.4.7:
If you've updated to 10.4.7 and it fixed or broke something, or you're not seeing a specific problem someone else reported here, let me know the details. Include system info and for problem reports, include software versions and any startup items used, etc. Thanks.
(Note - later reports are first except for those on "lost ram", which are grouped together.)

CPU Director 2.3b5 Update for OS X 10.4.7/10.4.8 (10/3/2006) Jamie at OWC sent a note a CPU Director update compatible with OS X 10.4.8/10.4.7 is available now at www.powerlogix.com/products/cpudirector/

(added 7/12/2006)
"I am using a D-Link DU-520 pci USB2 card on a MDD Dual 1Ghz G4 with 1.75Gb Ram and running 10.4.7 if the machine is put to sleep then the PCI card is no longer recognised. It is the same whether or not a device is plugged in to the card. I have phoned D-Link who say that it is a problem of the OS and not their card, so they don't want to know.
(I wrote Peter that an earlier report here (from July 3rd) from another D-Link DU-520 card owner said reinstalling the D-Link drivers solved the problem. (Many USB 2.0 PCI cards have native support although some (not all) had reported problems after the 10.4.7 update.))
Yes I saw that and reinstalled the driver, but it was exactly the same problem. I have spoken to Dlink here in the UK and they say that they do not provide a driver for the card and that the drivers are built into the OS therefor it is up to Apple to sort it out. It is true that there are no drivers on the UK site, even though there are on the US site which is what I used, but to no avail.
I was also in email contact with dlink in the US who said:
"You are seeking support from outside the United States. Please visit D-Link International Support at http://support.dlink.com/international for the latest support contact information for your region."
so they don't want to know either. Strange that they have drivers, but the UK dlink don't.
-Peter "

I wonder if all DU-520's made use the same chipset? (Asked Peter what Apple System Profiler shows for the USB 2.0 PCI card.)

(added 7/12/2006)
"Wacom tablet stopped working after update. I went to wacom site and downloaded current driver and installed after first removing old driver. The tablet still does not work.
Mac Dual Gig g4
Intuos 3 tablet
NEW Driver 4.96-3 for Mac OS X v.10.2.8 & later Mar. 22, 2006
-David"

I asked if he tried disconnecting/reconnecting the tablet and if it was directly connected to the Mac (vs through USB PCI card or Hub).

(added 7/12/2006)
"Microsoft Word. Crashes siting multiple framework errors.
I can repeat this error every time. It only occurs when accessing dot files. The file appears to load normaly appears on the screen briefly then crashes. This happens on our 15" Powerbooks G4 1.5ghz Tiger 10.4.7 Office 2004 11.2.4 Yet does not happen on any of our 10.4.6 machines.
Any ideas?
-Jeff "

BTW - yesterday MS released a an Office 2004 for Mac 11.2.5 Update (security related) - I asked if he had installed that. I don't have Office/Word installed on a 10.4.7 machine but if any reader has a tip, let me know.

(added 7/12/2006)
"This is another 10.4.7 ViaVoice user.
I installed viavoice from the cd and then ran the update. I then draged my backed up viavoice user folder onto the SetupAssistant.
Startup of VoiceCenter is extremely slow on my Mac mini 1.4 ppc with 512 mb of ram.
Viavoice works but any attempt to add new words or a new Voice Model results in corruption.

A new Voice Model will not be analyzed and fails with "processing failed (rc = 0 in step 7)"
Adding a new word resulted in SpeakPad not excepting anymore microphone input. A reinstall was then necessary.
-Mark "

(The recent news pages (July 6th and July 5th) had some ViaVoice/Tiger user tips but may not help with this however.)

(added 7/12/2006)
"I have a Power PC G4 Tower Mac (Blue) with an Encore 1.8 GHz processor up-grade card installed. I have one gig of RAM and am running Tiger 10.4.6. When I ran the Software Update to go to 10.4.7, the Installer did everything except with one minute left it hung up and didn't go any further. I forced quit the installer after about an hour with no further progress. When I tried to re-boot. I kept getting a message that I needed to re- start my computer. I used my back-up drive (Which had a copy of my drive on it), to re-install my previous system using SuperDuper.

I went to Apple's site and downloaded the Power PC up-date ( Mac OS X Update 10.4.7 Combo PPC?-Mike) thinking that there was a problem with the Software Update. I used this and tried to up-date again, but the exact same thing happened again. I kept re-booting and after about six times, it loaded up! I was using it for a couple of days and when I tried to transfer some digital pictures from my camera, the computer would not recognize the camera. I photo would normally automatically start up when I connected my camera, but no luck. I went back to my previous system 10.4.6 and everything worked normally again. I am not going to up-date again until Apple gets this corrected. Thanks.
-Raymond "

Any 3rd party addons, haxies, or login/startup items installed?

(added 7/10/2006)
"With Mac OS/X 10.4.6 purchased retail installed on my 400 MHz Sawtooth G4, my no-name US$25 four port USD 2.0 PCI card worked but caused the machine to fail to sleep. The computer would either immediately wake up or hang. For reasons unknown, upgrading to 10.4.7 fixed the sleep problem and all is well.

The box was purchased new in 2000 and has been upgraded with the addition of an 80 GB Western Digital HD, 4x 256 MB RAM, AirPort, an ATI 8500 AGP video card, a 23 inch Cinema Display, a LiteOn DVD-RAM, the above mentioned USB card, Bluetooth, and a bunch of peripherals. I'll probably be adding a dual G4 CPU replacement and maybe a SATA card. Maintenance has been limited to replacing the PRAM battery every few years and an annual air blasting of internal dust bunnies. My guess is that the system has seen close to 35,000 hours of usage. I expect the machine to last as long (twelve years) as did my 1986 Mac Plus.

Yes, Macs are expensive and expansions/enhancements are not cheap. But the gains in productivity and longevity compared to PCs makes a Mac the best choice for me.
-Steven "

(added 7/10/2006)
"10.4.7 broke Quark for me too. Disabling Suitcase Fusion alleviated the problem. Whatever the cause is, it seems to be font related. I will try the Font Finagler fix. (see previous tip)
-Darryl Y. "

(added 7/10/2006)
"From the amount of reports on the page it seems that 10.4.7 wasn't the blessing that Apple claims that it is, I'm living proof. (Most reports on anything are problem related, but some of us haven't had any 10.4.7 problems.-Mike)
My Mac is a PB 15inch 1.33ghz. I usually don't have any problems with the updates. Once I've installed an update I go about my business and wait for more exciting news from Apple, but not with this update. From the first day until today I've suffered through daily kernel panics, sometimes while using Firefox (or any other browser) and sometimes when I'm not doing anything!
I thought it might have been some new piece of software that I'd installed so anything installed after the update was tossed in the trash - poof! That didn't fix anything, over the past 2 days I've restarting my PB every couple of hours (panic or not).
(It's usually not software installed -after- an update that's the problem - it's usually 3rd party software/addons/haxies/login/startup items, etc. you had installed **before** the OS X update that's the problem. Did you check/remove any 3rd party startup items/login items, etc.? Try some of the other common tips (reinstall combo update, clear caches, reset nvram/PMU, etc.)-Mike)

Luckily I have a couple of drives with early 10.4 installed as was able to reboot from them with few problems but that still doesn't save me as all my much needed software is still on the main drive. I may be a MacGuru in my own mind but when faced with continuous kernel panics I bow to those who know more... HELP HELP HELP!
Thanks for any advice or help you or the readers of your site can offer. RB "

In addition to the above comments, I'd also look at the log (error messages, etc.) to see if it has any useful info. And check for updates to (non-apple) software you're using (Firefox, any browser plugins, etc.).

(added 7/10/2006)
"Im using the latest Powermac G5 with 4.5gigs Ram, dual 2ghz. After the 10.4.7 update I noticed that Safari crashes so often. Also that when selecting sites from Bookmarks, the site doent go to that actual link but to a previous page - I sometimes have to quit safari then the bookmark link works. No other problems as yet.
-Rashaad "

(added 7/7/2006)
"Hi Mike, I have a Power Mac G4 MDD 1.25 GHz (single processor). I installed the combo update on 7/5/07. Low and behold, my computer sleeps automatically again! After installing the Sonnet Allegro USB 2 card last year, my computer would not sleep automatically (but I could still put it to sleep manually). Now, it's going to sleep automatically and I'm a happy camper.

System Details: Power Mac G4 MDD 1.25 GHz (single processor) / 2 Gig RAM / ATI 9600 Pro video card / 80 GB Western Digital IDE drive, 80 GB Seagate IDE drive, 160 GB Seagate IDE drive (connected to Tempo card) / Pioneer DVR-110 SuperDrive / Sonnet Allegro USB 2 PCI card / Sonnet Aria Extreme PCI card / Sonnet Tempo ATA133 PCI card / HP PSC 1315 all-in-one printer.
-John "

(added 7/7/2006)
"I found out - much to my dismay - that 10.4.7 breaks all versions of Avid Express video editing software. Avid won't have a Universal version out 'til late this year or early next - probably just in time to get "broken" again by Leopard.ÊSupposedly, 10.4.6 is okay.

I've also noticed problems with the new version of Yahoo Instant Messenger. It worked fine under 10.4.6 but won't work under 10.4.7. On my Intel iMac it says the servers are down, while on my G-4, 1 ghz dual processor desk top, it won't recognize my password.
-Jack "

Follow-up on problem with Pages: (follow-up to his previous Pages problem report)

(added 7/7/2006)
"You're going to laugh at this one. Absolutely true. I'm going to open a bug on Apple's site about it.
What threw me is that *nothing* in my config has changed since I got my MacBook Pro. All I do is apply software updates. No new software or anything...
Since the day my MacBook Pro arrived in April, I've been using my MBP (lid open) with an external 1600x1200 LCD (connected via DVI). I like having two screens. I stick e-mail on the physically smaller screen of the MBP off to the left of my 1600x1200 where I do the rest of my work. Given it's mostly working on documents, I put my 1600x1200 in 90 degree rotate mode so that it's in a vertical orientation (which for one reason or another I prefer). Everything has worked great. Then came 10.4.7. I use Pages for a some of my documents because I like it. I've been using Pages 2.0.1v2 since end of April when that version came out.

Well, after 10.4.7 and Pages causing a hard lock of the system (maybe the mouse moves but *nothing* else works -- didn't try to ping it -- my bad) -- lauch it and within a second or two of opening a document the whole system was frozen, I gave up and blamed it on something unknown. I did a complete HD reformat and install of 10.4.5 (from the MBP disks that came with my system). Brought the system up to date w/ "Software Update..." (to 10.4.7 and Pages 2.0.1v2). System worked great. UNTIL... I changed my monitor configuration to the way I like it. I rotated the external screen and moved the menu bar to it. Oops! Pages stated locking up the system again. Through trial and error I discovered Pages:

• Works with rotated external screens if the menu bar is on the main MBP display
• Works with non-rotated external screens if the menu bar in on that external screen
• Locks the system if the menu bar is on an external rotated screen

So, that's the "workaround' -- keep the menu bar on the MBP display or ditch the rotation of external screen if you're going to put the menu bar on it.
Nice, huh? As I said, this was introduced in 10.4.7. They must have played with the logic behind the screen rotation function and something pages depends upon is horked.
-david r."

(added 7/7/2006)
"another explanation about ram info is hardware related (not tiger): bad chips. i have a mini which ran just fine for quite a while with a 1GB part (in earlier versions of tiger); then, coincidently or not, major crashes when the machine booted with 1GB; only when the machine (finally) booted with 512MB (ie half the chip not recognized - or partioned somehow) would higher versions of tiger operate without crash.

the logs all point to a hardware failure; though i havent had a chance yet to swap out the part to test this out (but the HW disgnostics on install disc does indeed report a hw failure -- though interestingly, that partition of the install disc is NOT revealed by disk utility!)
maybe a coincidence? maybe a more finiky version of tiger?
further testing required.
i will say this much: after 10.4.7, there definitely was some extra zip!
cheers, david "

There's several earlier reports on Missing RAM after the 10.4.7 update, but most were able to recover it after reseating memory and rebooting, etc.

(added 7/7/2006)
"I installed 10.4.7 PPC version. Immediately MacDraft began to crash every time I saved a file. While crashing from MacDraft, suddenly Safari and Mail and several Dashboard Widgets began crashing.
Apparently two fonts were damaged in the process and now cannot get Font Book to recognize them when trying to reinstall them.
Don't think a virus could cause much more damage. Don't install 10.4.7.
-David "

(added 7/7/2006)
"I have noticed that the game Rise of Nations will now crash when multiplayer mode is selected. I did the combo update to 10.4.7 on both my quad and my MacBook pro and the game crashes on both machines. I booted the machines from 10.4.6 and no problems. I have not yet talked to MacSoft about the problem but I know that they do not yet have a patch.
Regards, Mike P. "

(added 7/7/2006)
"I just upgraded my DC 2.3Ghz system from 1045 to 1047 (combo update) plus whatever else the Apple SW Updater recommended.
The upgrade was done while I was at work and I rebooted the machine remotely without issue. All systems came up fine and my memory was fully recognized. This is a stock 2.3Ghz DC system with 512MB RAM + 2GB RAM from All Components. Just an FYI, but I had not heard of All Components until a VP at work had issues with is new iMac G5. Nothing would work (or even pass the Apple Hardware test), until we installed memory from All Components. I have this in my home system and I have this in my work system and so far - its flawless (and as we know G5's can be very picky with the RAM they use).
The system also has a Hi Point SATA PCIe RAID card. Only one drive attached (so far). I have had some odd lockups in 10.4.5 and I've also had some very annoying power issues in my area.
It seems that even a threat of wind or rain can cause the power to flicker and if there is a breeze the power can go out for an hour... So this machine has been abused by the power companies. I think there have been 10 power outtages, flickers, surges, etc in the past two weeks and I know some flickers are to fast to be detected by human eye... but I'm getting off topic.
I do not have a printer connected to this system, but I do play WoW heavily and use the net - Safari, Firefox, VPN, etc... everything is working fine so far, though my system went down this morning because of another power flicker. :(
thx, drx "

Might want to get a (high VA rated) UPS.

(added 7/7/2006)
"G5 dual 2.7GHz refurb,
After updating to 10.4.7 I am having shutdown issues (fans crank up, display shuts down but machine just hums loud until I hold the power button down.
also the G5 is making a very annoying high pitched hum (dual 2.7 has always made a bunch of noise, but this is really annoying) I am very disappointed with the performance with the dual 2.7, at work I use a dualcore 2.3 both with 2.5 gig ram and I enjoy the 2.3GHz machine much more than my 2.7 at home.
Great site Mike, Thanks Rob "

The Dual 2.7 may have a hardware problem but I asked if he'd tried resetting the PMU. (on G5s disconnect pwr cord for several minutes.)

(added 7/7/2006)
"I had a friend bring a computer to me yesterday with the RAID 0 set failed. All of his data was striped across these two 160GB SATA drives in his dual 1.8GHz G5. The hard drives themselves are physically working after a format. I separated the RAID and am going to configure a nightly backup of all of his data. Needless to say this was a major pain in the ass. This happened immediately following and the update to Mac OS X 10.4.7.

I have run this update on a number of machines, but this was the first with an OS striped across a RAID using apple's RAID software. Just a word of warning to all RAID users, backup your critical data before you do an update if your circumstances are similar.
Jordan W.
Technology Manager
G2 Chicago "

It's a good idea for everyone to have a frequently updated Backup. (I use a Firewire HD for this.)

(added 7/7/2006)
"If anyone has newer HP Printer products (like myself with the HP PSC 1410 All In One Printer) newer drivers for 10.4.7 have to be installed. I spent a good half an hour on the phone with the Macintosh HP division uninstalling the original drivers then reinstalling the new drivers. Apperently Apple broke the drivers for some of the HP line when they made the newest update.
-JJ "

The July 11th news page has Reader notes on Updated/Universal Binary HP Printer Drivers/Software.

Tip for Quark Xpress Problems in 10.4.7: (in reply to problem reports below from Quark Xpress 6.5 users)

(added 7/7/2006)
" Hey there Mike, There's a thread on the QuarkXPress forums regarding this issue with Quark crashing after updating to 10.4.7:
http://www.quark.com/service/forums/viewtopic.php?t=13169.
While I haven't had a chance to try to reproduce this myself, the users seemed to be able to alleviate the problem by using my Font Finagler application (http:// homepage.mac.com/mdouma46/fontfinagler/ ) to clean the font caches (other apps may work too). Without comparing the crash logs of the users on the Quark forum with those of Jon D, it's hard to say whether these crashes are being caused by the same thing, but it's probably at least worth a shot.
The 10.4.7 update did include some bug fixes to the ATS.framework and ATSUI (Apple Type Services for Unicode Imaging) functions, which is what I believe Quark uses to handle rendering text.
Anyway, hope this helps,
Mark D. "

One of the Quark 6.5 users that reported a problem below (Scott) replied this fixed the problem.

Quark Xpress 6.5 Problems: (2 reports - see Quark tip above.)

(added 7/6/2006)
"Now, I'm not one to complain about Apple updates, I've never had any problems with them before..... but both myself and a work colleague discovered that Quark Xpress 6.5 constantly quits since we installed the update, you get so far into a document and then it just quits, sometimes you can't get past the first page! A bit tricky to operate if you work on a magazine! Come on Apple... sort yourself out!
-Jon D. "

I asked if anyone else had seen problems with Quark 6.5 in 10.4.7 and got another reply:

" We just updated one of our G5's with the 10.4.7 update and it broke Quark 6.5. We can open documents but when it randomly dies when you navigate past the first page of the document. The application hangs for a few seconds and then just quits.
Have a great day,
Scott V.
IT Operations Manager
Husqvarna Construction Products "

Scott later wrote the tip above (using fontfinagler) solved the problem.

(added 7/6/2006)
"Since applying the 10.4.7 update, I can't run Pages. It launches and brings up the "select type of document to create" dialog and new document with that format, however a few seconds later the CPU load from pages goes to 99.99% and then the system quits responding. Hard hang. No processes run in the background. Activity monitor quits updating, etc. The mouse *sometimes* keeps working, but not always.
If I directly open a Pages document the same thing happens -- it runs for a few seconds and then hangs the entire system -- not just Pages.
Running on a 15" MacBook Pro.
-David R. "

Did try applying the "Combo" updater? What version of pages do you have installed? (there were some updates to Pages.) Update - see above for his later notes on the problem related to using an externa display.

(added 7/6/2006)
"Our 15in G4 Powerbook was working fine till we clicked yes to 10.4.7 update (the auto update program also updated quicktime, and itunes). Ever since the update all of our programs are quiting. I have tried to clear the PRAM and we have also repaired the disk permissions in the Disk Utility. Rebooting several times or safe mode has not helped either. I.E., Safari, and Firefox are not working properly either and the office suite crashes as well. We will appreciate any tips or solutions to this problems because right now we cant use our computer thanks to this update
-thanks, M "

I don't know what else to suggest other than the usual tips, some which you have done. (Checking for 3rd party startup/login items, updates to 3rd party software (including browser plugins), resetting PMU and NVRAM, reapplying combo update, etc.)

(added 7/6/2006)
"iMac Core Duo 20" running 10.4.7
Quickbooks Pro 2006 crashes every time you try to enter a new check item. Every time. Permissions and HDD repair performed using OSX Startup Disk Utilities.
Reinstalled QBP 2006, now waiting for report from accountant as to crashes with re-install.
-Thomas M. "

(added 7/6/2006)
"Updated G3/500MHz iBook and 1.67GHz (HR) 15" Powerbook both from 10.4.6 to 10.4.7 using Combo update. Worked painlessly and all works fine. Epson Stylus 900 printer still recognized as well as external firewire drives.
Planning to upgrade 553 Mhz G4 Tower from 10.3.9 to 10.4.7 by installing on second internal 120GB HD (currently used for backups). 10.3.9 is on original installed 40GB HD. Have HP Photosmart 1218 USB connected printer and Epson 3200 Perfection Photo scanner connected via Firewire. Will let you know results.
-David B. "

(added 7/6/2006)
"I have a Macbook Pro with 2GB Ram and 2.16 Duo Core. After 10.4.7 upgrade, I have sudden, intermittent loss of connectivity through airport. Plug in a network cable and it's fine. This has happened at home with an Airport Extreme base station, and at work with a linksys device. At home, restarting the MacBook seems to correct the problem. At work, restarting does not solve the problem. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
-Art "

I haven't had any Airport problems with 10.4.7 personally but one previous report below mentioned he had and what he did that helped. (Changed/toggled some settings which rewrites the prefs and rebooted a few times.)

(added 7/6/2006)
"Hi Mike, it seems Preview app doesn't sort files correctly once you drop them from a Finder selection to the Dock icon.
As example, selecting and dropping all the images from ~/Images/Ichat Icons/Gems/ looks like this (Notice how the last two files are not sorted right)
Greetings from Spain
-George R. "

I've not checked this on the 10.4.7 system here yet, but another reader reported the same thing:

(added 7/7/2006)
"George R reported that in 10.4.7, Preview no longer correctly sorts files. I have also seen this since upgrading my macs to 10.4.7. I have a dual -1 GHz MDD G4 at work, and a new Intel dual-core 2 GHz iMac at home, and they both show the same misbehavior.
In my case, I open a folder full of jpg files, select all files in the folder, and double click to open all of these jpg files. They open in Preview. Under previous OS versions, they would be sorted properly by file name. Under 10.4.7, there are almost always sorting errors.
However, if I control-click in the "Drawer" (the sidebar full of thumbnails), and select the option to sort by path, then the images are properly sorted. So this is a work-around that works at least for files in the same folder.
David W. "

(added 7/5/2006)
"10.4.7 re-introduced a problem that occurred on 10.4.6 on intel mac. PowerPC machines will have now problems running Canon SDK with USB cameras and therefore application using it won't be able to work with them. If you have such an application (for example Capture One) and Canon USB camera (D5, D20...) do not upgrade!
best regards, Jakub V. "

I've not used one of those camera's but have not had any USB problems so far with a 2003 G5 updated to 10.4.7. (Printing, USB CF cardreader, etc. works ok here.)

"Apple managed to screw up USB in 10.4.7 I had big problems with an OS9 program that I need to use - I just couldn't print anything after updating to 10.4.7 This fix cured the problem.
The solution is to replace 10.4.7 /System/Library/Extensions/ IOUSBFamily.kext file with the 10.4.6 version.
First, make sure that you backup the original 10.4.7 IOUSBFamily.kext file.
If you have another Mac still in 10.4.6 you can just copy the file to somewhere on your 10.4.7 Mac. But if you don't you will need to download the 10.4.6 update or combo update and use something like Pacifist (www.charlessoft.com) to extract the IOUSBFamily.kext file. (there's also some older USB drivers at http://developer.apple.com/hardwaredrivers/download/usbdebug.html, but don't install the "Log" versions, which generate a log for USB I/O debugging.)

Once you have the file you will then need to enable a root user account. Do this by running Net Info manager - hit Enable Root User and enter a complicated password. (Apple also has a kbase doc on Enabling and using the "root" user in Mac OS X
OK, insert your OSX install DVD - you might need it for the last step.
Now log out and log in as Root and copy the IOUSBFamily.kext file over. It is most important now to repair permissions.
Log out of ROOT user and restart your Mac.

If you get a message about the IOUSBFamily.kext file not being installed properly . . shut down - hold the Option key on re-boot and select your OSX install DVD and again repair permissions - now after re-starting everything should be working properly.
-Michael
Japan"

I don't use classic but have not seen any USB problems so far in 10.4.7 on a 2003 G5 (USB printer, CF reader, etc. works ok here).

(added 7/5/2006)
"10.4.7 resolved some problems involving USB on my Mac Mini (G4 1.25GHz)
Hi Mike, Despite all the problems that have shown up concerning the MacOS 10.4.7 update , I'd like to also mention two problems with my USB, that were resolved with the update:

1. My cheap USB webcam (which utilizes a Sonix SN9C102 controller) only worked on a USB hub, if a second USB device were plugged into the Mac AND currently transferring data (like a mouse moving around). This only occurred with the original Sonix Mac drivers. When used with the newest version of macam (0.8.7, which supports Sonix controllers for the first time) the camera did not show this behavior. After the MacOS update, the camera can be used normally with a hub.

2. The intermittently very high CPU-loads caused by my (idle or communicating) Draytek miniVigor128 ISDN modem about every 12 seconds have disappeared. The miniVigor drivers have often caused kernel- panics in the past as well - but I do not know, if this has been resolved too.

Hope this maybe helps for some other troubleshooting aspects!
Bye, Torge "

ATI 8500, USB 2.0 PCI card (OK):

(added 7/5/2006)
"Hey Mike, just a report on my Sawtooth running 10.4.7. System was a G4 500 Sawtooth, upgraded with an OWC 1.4Ghz CPU. Nothing broken and system seems to be identical to before the update. System specs are as follows:
Radeon 8500 Mac Edition, Sonnet ATA133 card, Airport, 768Mb RAM, internal LG-DVDR, Lacie USB2.0 PCI card

No problems with either the Radeon card or USB2.0 card as reported with some other owners. No drivers for the Lacie card and functionality with my iPod Shuffle through iTunes is identical to before the update.
No repairs done to permissions prior to the update, but I did run Disk Utility immediately after the install of the 10.4.7 update.
System took a while to boot past the grey Apple screen after the update was installed, but finally did (after muttering a few prayers) and has been rock solid since. Nice work on the site by the way. I would have been completely lost more than once without it!
-Alex Toronto, Canada "

Thanks Alex.

(added 7/5/2006)
"Since I downloaded 10.4.7 I have had many unexpected shut downs on my G5 IMac. The Apple reseller tech says he has had a number of reports of this kind of activity. It sometimes just shuts down after a half minute and sometimes it stays ok for hours. Until a week ago it was totally fine.
Have you heard from others on this?

(I asked if he could check the system log to see what messages it had. (Also suggested the usual tips, resetting pmu/nvram, reinstall combo update, check addons, etc.)-Mike)
Thanks. I reset the PRAM and NVRAM and so far so good.
Douglas K. "

More Reports on Problems with some USB 2.0 PCI cards:

(added 7/5/2006)
"Since reading other users' postings, I'm putting my 2 cents in about my problems w/the iPod and 10.4.7
installed IOGEAR USB 2.0 card today; absolutely WILL NOT mount my brand 30GB ipod video. I get the "Do not disconnect" warning but the ipod does not appear on the desktop nor will it launch or appear in iTunes. Ipod works fine with USB 1.1 (although AGONIZINGLY slow).

I purchased the card because it is on Apple's recommended list; IOGEAR was absolutely no help in troubleshooting.
The card IS working - it appears in my system profiler and it syncs w/my Palm E2 fairly quickly (faster than the usual sync on a 1.1 only port).
I've tried the posted troubleshooting work-arounds -- reset PRAM, reset iPod, rebooted, rebooted in safe mode, etc. No luck. So right now I'm back to USB 1.1 and a lot of patience. (tried reinstalling 10.4.7 w/"Combo Updater?) BTW, I tried dealing w/IOGEAR tech support -- totally useless. Anyone had any luck with Belkin or another brand? (see other reports here)
Another frustrated 10.4 user
Liz S. (NY)
Machine Name: Power Mac G4 (PowerMac3,6)
CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (2.1)
Number Of CPUs: 2, CPU Speed: 867 MHz
L2 Cache (per CPU): 256 KB, L3 Cache (per CPU): 1 MB
Memory: 512 MB, Bus Speed: 133 MHz

usb:
Type: usb
Bus: PCI
Slot: SLOT-4
Vendor ID: 0x10b9
Device ID: 0x5237
Subsystem Vendor ID: 0x10b9
Subsystem ID: 0x5237
Revision ID: 0x0003

USB High-Speed Bus:
Host Controller Location: Expansion Slot
Host Controller Driver: AppleUSBEHCI
PCI Device ID: 0x5239
PCI Revision ID: 0x0001
PCI Vendor ID: 0x10b9
Bus Number: 0x74 "

According to ASP, the above card is natively supported (Apple driver used).
A D-Link card owner mentioned reinstalling drivers solved his 10.4.7 problem (apparently was not natively supported as some cards are).

(added 7/3/2006)
"PowerMac Quicksilver, Dual 800MHz G4, 1GB RAM, ATI Radeon 8500 AGP, Pioneer DVR-110D, Atto ExpressPCIPro UL3D, D-Link DU-520 5 port USB2 PCI card, Aluminium 20" Cinema Display.
Everything is fine except the update killed my D-Link USB2 PCI card. Reinstalling the D-Link driver package resolved the problem.
Regards, Daniel P. "

A PCI-express USB 2.0 card user (no drivers needed previously) also reported problems:

" Aaxeon USB PCI express card not functioning after 10.4.7 update
Just thought you might like to know that this card which needs no drivers has completely stopped working. System profiler still sees it but there is no USB functionality any more in my Quad Core.
best regards,
Brian H. (regular reader from the UK) "

I've had several reports on 10.4.7 not working with PCI USB 2.0 cards, although not everyone with one had a problem. Have you tried disconnecting/reconnecting devices to the card? (and the other usual voodoo - reset nvram, reapply combo update, etc.) What chipset does it use? I wonder if the system log has any related errors about the Card/problem.

Scrambled Video on ATI 8500 (some other 8500 owners didn't have a problem)

(added 7/3/2006)
Hi Mike, since 10.4.7 i get scrambled Videoscreen (like overclocked cards) after some time. G4 400 AGP, 1 GHZ G4 Sonnet, 10.4.7 (used combo update) , ATI 8500 AGP

system.log
Jun 30 23:28:42 Andreas-Panther-G3MAC kernel[0]: ** ASIC Hang Log Start **
Jun 30 23:28:42 Andreas-Panther-G3MAC kernel[0]: 0x0100514c 2f000203 00000007 00000003
Jun 30 23:28:42 Andreas-Panther-G3MAC kernel[0]: 0x02006c3b c0001c04 00000002 00000008
Jun 30 23:28:42 Andreas-Panther-G3MAC kernel[0]: 0x00004443 01e0be03 00000c0c 80010140
Jun 30 23:28:42 Andreas-Panther-G3MAC kernel[0]: 0x4000ffff 00100000 51b3a300 72001005
Jun 30 23:28:42 Andreas-Panther-G3MAC kernel[0]: 0x080a0f00 70000000 040100f8 80000003
Jun 30 23:28:42 Andreas-Panther-G3MAC kernel[0]: 0x0008bbbb 00000002
Jun 30 23:28:42 Andreas-Panther-G3MAC kernel[0]: 0:0x000101ce
....
Jun 30 23:28:31 Andreas-Panther-G3MAC kernel[0]: ** ASIC Hang Log End **
Jun 30 23:28:31 Andreas-Panther-G3MAC kernel[0]:
ATIRadeon::submit_buffer: Overflowed block waiting for FIFO space. Have 5, need 6. RBBM_STATUS 0x80010140. VAP_CNTL_STATUS 0x00000002

I searched with filebuddy where the message "Overflowed block waiting for FIFO space." came from it comes from the ATI drivers (ATIRadeon.kext, Ati8500.kext). Both where changed in 10.4.7
I will try to use 10.4.6 ATI drivers and report result.

Also my mac once shut OFF (i mean power off without shut down, was never before !!!).
system.log :
Jun 30 23:51:01 Andreas-Panther-G3MAC kernel[0]: ApplePMU::PMU forced shutdown, cause = -122

As others, sleep /wake up gettting freeze, sleep monitor getting scrambled video!
-Andreas M."

I'd try resetting the PMU and NVRAM and if possible, I'd try reinstalling using a Combo Updater. (Just for the record I also asked if this was a retail Mac card (or a flashed PC one) and if he'd ever used ATICellerator II to overclock it.)
Another G4 owner with an 8500 AGP card and PCI USB 2.0 card didn't note any problems with the video but did mention he had to reinstall the D-Link USB card drivers again after the 10.4.7 update (see below). (A later report above from a 8500/USB 2.0 card users noted no problems with either of them.)

(added 7/3/2006 - Updated 7/5/2006)
"I installed 10.4.7 last night. Now my Mac G4 733 freezes once the system goes idle. It will wake up and show the desktop and the mouse cursor is functional but the computer will not respond to mouse clicks or keyboard commands. The only thing I can do is a hard reboot. Very frustrating. My wife said "I thought Macs were not supposed to freeze"
Any suggestions... I have already repaired my permissions and run ONYX 1.7

(Is the keyboard/mouse plugged directly into the Mac's onboard USB ports? (not a USB PCI card or hub) Tried disconnecting/reconnecting the keyboard/mouse?
Do you have any 3rd party (non-apple) login or startup items installed? (some have caused problems with 10.4.7 - I'd remove any that you have installed if you can)
If you boot in "Safe Mode" (startup items are disabled) using the Shift key held down at boot does that help?-Mike)
Thank you very much.... I disabled the few startup items I had and that fixed the freeze problem... I appreciate your response
Thanks, Pat M. "

(added 7/3/2006)
"I have a brand new iMac Intel. I updated OSX through the software update function to 10.4.7.
Immediately the problems started. I received a message to start the system again (gray curtain coming down the screen with this message). (sounds like the kernel panic screen. Did that happen after the update completely installed? (i.e. Did you see the normal dialog box that it completed and to restart the system - or did it kernel panic before that?)-Mike)
No I just got the message to reboot

The first time I managed to restart, but then again I received this message when working in another application.
But now I cannot restart at all. I tried everything but I have a black screen. I do have power since the white spot is visible on the monitor and I hear the machine working in the first 5 seconds after pushing the start button.
Then I put in the installation disc #1 which is also stuck. I cannot do anything. Do you have any ideas what I can/must do now?
(Here are some Apple notes on startup key combinations for Intel iMacs (including Force CD eject, NVRAM resets, force startup with apple hardware test CD, etc.) Apple also has a kbase doc with general notes on Mac OS X: Troubleshooting installation and software updates.
Can you boot in safe mode? (shift key down, doesn't load startup items)-Mike)
No nothing works. I can only restart after I disconnect all USB connected devices.

(Do you have any 3rd party ram installed in the system?
Did you have any 3rd party addons, haxies, login/startup items, etc. installed?-Mike)
No I don't have any 3rd party RAM. I have 2GB RAM installed by Apple. I did not change anything, trouble started after the update to 10.4.7. I understood from the internet that I should install the Combo Update. I did that but things did not improve really. I get 2-3 times a day a crash...looks familiar to Windows.
Best regards,
Roeland D.
The Netherlands"

Notes on Scrolling Trackpad/iScroll w/10.4.7:

(added 7/3/2006)
"I don't know if anybody pointed out this, and actually I don't even know if this is on topic, but anyway I wanted to let you know a nice collateral effect of applying 10.4.7 on my PB 15" Alu 1.5 Mhz pre-scrolling trackpad.
For the scrolling capabilities, I used to use iScroll.
Well, installing 10.4.7 update in the trackpad preference pane I got all the controls of the scrolling trackpad. Unistalling iScroll made those controls go away.
I'll try to explain in a better way:
When I was on 10.4.6, in the Trackpad Pref Pane there was no option for two finger scroll/click, so I installed iScroll to enable them. After installing iScroll, still no options in Trackpad Pref Pane, but I could use iScroll Pref Pane to have the two finger scroll/click.

Then, I updated to 10.4.7 and:
- without iScroll (unistalled): no new options in the Trackpad Pref Pane (no two finger scroll/click);
- with iScroll (installed): new options (two finger scroll/click) in the Trackpad Pref Pane.

I know it is sort of redundant (now I can control the two finger scrolling/clicking both in iScroll and in Trackpad Pref Pane), but that's it: the options for two finger scrolling/clicking are in Trackpad Pref Pane ONLY with iScroll installed!

Beside this (good for me) news, no problems with the 10.4.7 update so far.
All the best
Pasquale S. - Italy"

A previous reader report also said that the two finger click = right click was now enabled (didn't mention using iScroll).

(added 7/3/2006)
"With 10.4.7 my Missing Sync for Palm OS, version 5.1 doesn«t work anymore. When trying to perform a hotsync nothing happends... I'm using a Treo 650.
-MacMedIT"

Is there any compatibility info on 10.4.7 at their website? (missing sync developers - do they have any notes on 10.4.7, any updates, etc.?)

(added 6/30/2006)
"Greatly Improved Rosetta Performance after 10.4.7 update.
Is this isolated to a few apps, or is it overall? Huge jump on games under Rosetta on a Core Duo iMac 20" 1GB RAM
-David G."

I asked if he used the "Combo" 10.4.7 updater (he later said no), as Apple has confirmed now the delta update for Intel Macs was missing some OpenGL related files. (See notes below.)

USB 2.0 PCI Card Sleep Problems: (2nd report like this under 10.4.7)

(added 6/30/2006)
"I have a Power Mac G4 MDD 1,25 GHz (single processor). After the update the system would not go to sleep and freeze so I had to restart it holding the power button. The problem seems to be the USB-2 card from Belkin (F5U005). Connected are a HP DeskJet 990C and the hub of my monitor (Eizo Flexscan L778), no mass storage device and no iPod. I only had problems with the card in the past when a storage device was connected and the Mac went to sleep. Bought this card two years ago because it was recommended on Apples web site.

I did an Archive and Install of 10.4.6 and now everything is working again. No 10.4.7 on this machine. My Intel Mac Mini did not have problems with the update.
Best regards, Thomas "

(added 6/30/2006)
"I updated my PowerMac G5 Dual 1.8 with 2GB of RAM and two hard disks to 10.4.7. At the same time the latest QuickTime was installed. I didn't reboot immediately, but after some 30 minutes or an hour after the installation was complete the whole machine froze. None of the running applications were not responding and when trying to do anything, I just got the beach ball. After some minutes I gave the machine a hard reset, which it never recovered of.

At startup I only get grey screen on my primary monitor, the other stays in standby(!). No Apple logo, no spinning disk, nothing. After some minutes the fans speed up to the max.

Booting into the installed and launching System Profiler reveals there are no hard disks found, nor are the SATA buses. The OS installer doesn't list any HDD's at the step in which install location is chosen.

Apple Hardware Test reports a failure after running the extended test, but not with the short test. The error message is as follows:

Main board: Error
Error code: 2GMC/4/16: built-in

A quick Google search reveals this has something to do with the built- in Ethernet and that the motherboard may need to be replaced. I'd love to know whether others have had similar problems or did something else cause the mainboard failure.

I tried the usual tricks I knew: PRAM reset, NVRAM reset (in Open Firmware), CUDA reset, booting with option key pressed, booting into the safe mode. All no-go. I also phoned AppleCare but they were unwilling to help because my 90-day support period has expired.

I hope this is useful information to some, and that a fix for the problem is found.

(It won't help if there's been an actual hardware failure, but did you try resetting the PMU also? On G5's unplug the AC Power cord for several minutes. I've seen some odd problems fixed that way (no video, boot problems, etc.) but if there's been an actual component failure the usual 'voodoo' won't help. (if the disk is corrupted it may not boot either..)-Mike)
I tried to unplug the machine.
After some troubleshooting and two calls to Apple they agreed to arrange a repair. The Apple Hardware Test result was the most important factor.
Looks like the hardware failure just happened to occur at the same time with an OS update.
-Janne M. "

(added 6/30/2006)
"Just installed the 10.4.7 combo updater on a Gigabit G4 PowerLogix Dual 7455B 1 GHZ / 2 Gig ram / ATI 9000Pro / 2x 80 GB WesternDigital IDE Drives / RME Pci MultiFace Sound Card, running 10.4.6. Install went without a hitch rebooted twice (as per ), CPU Director (2.3b4) is broken...
But everything works fine and feels snappier , especially internet / network related speed and transfers.
Regards, Rob B. "

Problems with Mini-ADB Adapter:

(added 6/30/2006)
"Hi Mike, Spent my morning trouble-shooting my wife's dual 1.8 G5 after applying the latest update. I had had no troubles with my 17" PB G4. On reboot the G5 got stuck on the apple and progress meter screen, sometimes crashing, sometime continuing with much fan noise. There is often disk corruption due to her millions of files I suppose from designing but this time booting into target mode, backing up everthing, then running disk warrior failed to fix things.
I removed adobe version cue and the wacom drivers still w/o improvement. disabling the usb devices led me down the correct path - a mini-adb converter (now marketed under addlogix, formerly compucable) we had been using to allow for use of the late great apple extended keyboard 2 seems to be the culprit. I tried to upgrade using the latest firmware but the driver is os9. I guess we had just been getting by with luck - now when i plug it in get maybe 5 characters in before crashing the machine. i shot an email to addlogix. i imagine this is a pretty isolated problem but thought i would pass it along.
such is progress. thanks for a great site.
-Daniel T. "

10.4.7 Delta Update for Intel CPU Macs missing some OpenGL related files:

" Hi Mike, For the Intel Mac owners, they will probably want to use the 10.4.7 Combo updater. There's some new OpenGL features for the Intel Macs (no PPC support yet) which do not seem to be included with the Delta updater. There's a note on the World of Warcraft Mac Tech Support forum regarding it.
Ciao!, A.J. "

Applying the combo updater has always been a common tip for anyone that had problems with the delta update, but I don't recall anything like this before if you had already applied -all- the previous updates.
Update: (6/30/2006) I spotted a note in an Apple security mail list that confirms the delta 10.4.7 updater for Intel Macs was missing some OpenGL related files. They will be releasing a revised delta 10.4.7 update package to include them.

" APPLE-SA-2006-06-29 Mac OS X v10.4.7 package revision
Mac OS X v10.4.7 was released on Tuesday of this week. The install package that upgrades a Mac OS X v10.4.6 (Intel) system is being revised. The revision is to provide several files related to OpenGL performance that were missing.

Only the package that upgrades a Mac OS X v10.4.6 (Intel) system to Mac OS X v10.4.7 (Intel) is being changed. All other Mac OS X v10.4.7 install packages remain unchanged.

The change being made to the install package does not affect the security fixes provided in the package.

The new package is named: MacOSXUpd10.4.7Intel.dmg
It's SHA-1 digest is: 0aa57dfccd63accb0939a894cea202a8910fb45 "

(added 6/29/2006)
" Upgraded to 10.4.7 using Software Update. My Dual 2.0GHz Power Mac G5 then reported "No Airport hardware found." even though it has Airport Extreme. One restart fixed that, but then my Wacom tablet stopped working after two minutes. That behaviour is consistent, every restart. Clicking on the trash icon in the dock causes Finder to restart.
-Adam B. "

As I mentioned before, 10.4.7 on my 2003 Dual 2GHz G5 (w/Airport extreme card) has been OK so far - no airport or other problems. You didn't mention the Wacom driver version used, but I'd check with Wacom to see if there's a driver compatibility problem (or update) for the tablet. (Disconnecting/reconnecting USB devices is a common tip also but it may not help with your problem.)

Application Enhancer Problem (I think he was using an older version than the latest APE 2.0.1. Please include software versions used in problem reports and always remember the first thing to check is 3rd party addons, haxies, startup items, etc. which are often a cause of OS X update problems. It's best to check with the developer for compat. info/any updates before you apply an OS X update.)

(added 6/29/2006)
" I haven't been able to open Photoshop or Illustrator since the 10.4.7 upgrade. They both stop at "read font list". Also, every time I go to my preferences folder and try to open it, the window disappears. No help from Apple.
(I haven't updated to CS2 versions but Photoshop CS runs on my 10.4.7 updated G5 OK. What versions of PS and Illustrator are you using? (CS2? all updates applied?) This sounded like corrupted files perhaps (prefs and/or fonts maybe) But he later replied that he'd had "Application Enhancer" installed and removing it fixed the problem.)
I found a place on the internet this morning that said to uninstall Application Enhancer, whatever that is. (from Unsanity.com, developer of many addons/haxies, etc. There was a recent 2.0.1 update APE, just before 10.4.7 was released.-Mike) I followed the instructions and everything is working fine now. In the mean time I deleted my preferences and created havoc with mail, but that is ok. I really needed the CS2 things.
I am running CS2 with all the updates installed.
I'll check some of your other suggestions, but right now things are ok again. Thanks for writing back.
-Dale B. "

I asked what version of APE he was using (the news post here on Monday about "Parallels Tweaker" had a note on a recent Application Enhancer 2.0.1 update that fixed some 'known issues') and he said he downloaded the latest v2.0.1 to uninstall APE, so I'm guessing he had v2.0 or older previously installed. A lot of problems with OS X updates are due to 3rd party addons/haxies. (Which is why I avoid them usually but if you're using them check for any updates/compat. info from the developer before updating the OS.)

(added 6/29/2006)
" Finally had an update bork my system (fairly stock Digital Audio 533, 1.0GB RAM, 300GB Maxtor HD on an Acard 133 IDE bus, Radeon 8500). Ran 10.4.7 via SU. It exited cleanly then failed to boot. I was getting stuck at an OpenFirmware screen (the ever-popular DEFAULT CATCH!, code=300) with no actual prompt, just the message. After much futzing around and booting from an iBook in Target Disk Mode, I see that everything is intact.
I ran the downloaded version of the combo updater, which reported success but failed to fix the problem. It now seems that the system is essentially unblessed. Startup Disk sees it as a valid 10.4.7 volume, but Disk Utility doesn't give the option of repairing permissions, leading me to believe that it doesn't see it as a bootable drive. (have you ran disk repair from DU when booted from another System?-Mike) I've run "bless" from the command line to no avail. About the only progress I've made is that now when I land at the OF screen there's an actual prompt, so at least I can twiddle from there (for all the good it's doing me).
Thanks, Bryan "

Did you try resetting the nvram? (from open firmware prompt). Got any 3rd party startup items installed.

(added 6/29/2006)
" I think that this corresponds with the 10.4.7 update (but could have been earlier, however, just noticed it). The two finger click = right click is now enabled in the keyboard/trackpad system preference. It is no longer just a MB or 17-inch MB Pro setting. Very cool. Thanks for an awesome site!
-David "

Thanks - don't own one of the Intel macs (yet - saving for a Pro Tower...) but I think a reader mentioned this before the 10.4.7 update but can't remember which model he had.

(added 6/29/2006)
" Mike, I have an Adaptec 5-port USB 2.0 card in my Dual 2 G5. After updating to 10.4.7 I was unable to put the computer to sleep. Selecting sleep just caused the whole system to crash (freeze up); requiring me to force the system to shut down by holding the power button down. (even if no devices connected to the card?-Mike) Removing the card fixed the problem. It had been working fine from 10.4.0 to 10.4.6 (although I did have a little problem with 10.4.5)

Personally, I do not understand why Apple would made an expandable architecture when each time something it added it interferes with the normal function of the computer.
-Mike "

(added 6/29/2006)
" Hey, Mike. As you know, PowerLogix CPU Director 2.3b4 won't run in 10.4.7, but SonnectCache 1.4 works for me with my Sonnet G4 1GHz in a Beige G3 Desktop. (CPU Director's primary use if for owners of Powerlogix upgrades, especially those based on 750FX/GX CPUs where it is used to control the CPU's speed via software. (It also has DFS support for PL 7447A based upgrades and thermal monitoring of the sensor onboard PL cpu upgrades.)-Mike)
I did the Software Update on one of my backup bootable 10.4.6 Volumes that I use for emergency and maintennance. I thought I'd test it out on that Volume first. The initial restart went through the white apple screen and then the blank blue screen with the rotating flywheel, and hung there. After several minutes, with no audible disc activity, I decided it needed a forced reboot. The second reboot made it through to my auto-login user account, I have CPU Monitor as a start up item, and noticed a lot of activity, so I gave it a few minutes to finish, probably Spotlight indexing.
I reenabled my cache with SonnetCache 1.4, after CPU Director gave me a very nice user-friendly message that it doesn't support 10.4.7 please look for an update. With my cache re-enabled it rebooted much quicker, about the same as 10.4.6, which to me seems a little faster than 10.3.9 but I haven't clocked it. I was able to browse the web in Safari just fine, but haven't done much testing of other software and hardware yet, as it was late last night.
I am using XPostFacto 4.0 for the intial installation and switching bootable volumes. Thanks for keeping us all informed, you provide a very valuable and useful resource to the Mac community, and your site sponsors are great folks to do business with.
-Glen."

Thanks Glen.

More Reports on "Missing RAM" after 10.4.7 I've added 3 more reports to the section below on 'missing ram' after the 10.4.7 update was applied. (Note - the PB owner that had a 256MB sodimm reported as 128MB (in either slot) later said he's ok now after cleaning the contacts. Another noted rebooting solved it.)

(added 6/29/2006)
" 10.4.7 Problem with iSync;
After installing 10.4.7 I tried to sync my calendar to my .mac account. It took a very long to time connect. Basically the whole exercise was frustrating. The buttons for selecting an deselecting items to be synced did not respond and then when I did tell it to sync the text on the lower left was all jumbled over the top of the blue progress bar. Not what i was expecting from an improved update. I dare say 10.4.8 won't be far away.
-Carl "

Another reader also had some .Mac sync problems.

(added 6/29/2006)
" Hi, just submitting my 2c regarding the recent 10.4.7 upgrade. In 10.4.6 and below, there was a published method of activating Bluetooth iSync for the Motorola v710 CDMA phone. It involved editing a plist file within iSync. That method appears to no longer work with 10.4.7; after multiple attempts, Bluetooth sync for this phone is still unavailable to me.
Apparently this hack sometimes breaks with the new OS X updates, so I'm waiting to see if anyone comes up with a fix.
Cheers, Chris "

Modified files like this also didn't work after the 10.4.6/iSync update IIRC. Nova media updated their isync plugins for 10.4.7, but they don't have a plugin (yet) for the Motorola v710. (They also posted some notes on Mac OS X 10.4.7 and iSync 2.3.)

(added 6/29/2006)
" New process contacts Apple
With the 10.4.5 update the Dock started to contact Apple, the main store web page. (Install Little Snitch, Force Quit the Dock, Activate Dashboard) Now with the 10.4.7 update a new process "dashboardadvisoryd" now wants to contact Apple. Full Little Snitch message here

The application "dashboardadvisoryd" wants to connect to www.apple.com on TCP port 80 (http)

Hmmm, I thought at first we were going to see some sort of Apple Store widget, and I was alarmed the Dock contacted Apple (checking on my apps?)
To catch the effects of the new process, it might be necessary to tighten up Little Snitch's settings from the rather liberal default settings. (he later wrote)
OK... this is got to be it (from Apple kbase doc on 10.4.7)

"You can now verify whether or not a Dashboard widget you downloaded is the same version as a widget featured on (www.apple.com) before installing it."

In fact there was some security issues with widgets at the time of the 10.4.5 update. that might have had Apple make a patch through the Dock until a process could be developed. I'm sure Apple has enough fanatical hit traffic not to need to increase it any further :) Sorry to bother you, thought it was a basis for a new feature.
Best regards to you and all your readers.
-Hogfish "

(added 6/29/2006)
" My SuperDrive was FUBAR.
It was not recognized by the system, any apps, or the system profiler. Attempting to put a disc into the slot drive did nothing. The action that normally sucks the disc in failed to work. I did a reset. (PMU? NVRAM?-Mike) Same problem.
Then I did a full shutdown, waited, and booted up.
Everything's fine now. I've never had any problems like this before.
1.5 GHz PowerBook G4.
-Alexander F. "

(added 6/29/2006)
" The update did something to Safari so that now I can't log in successfully to my bank website. It says I have an incorrect user ID (but the ID is correct). I can still get log in with no problem using Firefox or using the Safari on my Powerbook, which is still running 10.4.6.
(I asked if the bank login page used javascript (just curious).-Mike)
More than likely yes. In case it helps you, here's the URL:
https://compubranch.ssfcu.org/ssfcu/
By the way, I updated the Powerbook to 10.4.7, and it resulted in the same problem in Safari, so this bug is repeatable.
-Steve "

" So far 10.4.7 is working with no problems on my system. As expected the Safari update broke PithHelmet but 10 seconds work with TextEdit fixed that. That was the only "problem" caused by 10.4.7 here.

Sawtooth G4 Tower
1 GB misc generic PC133 RAM
OWC 1.5 GHz G4
OEM 27 GB Quantum HD - boot drive
2x80GB Maxtor HDs striped with SIIG RAID card - data drive
ATI Radeon 8500 overclocked to 300/300 MHz
OrangeMicro USB 2.0 card
Samsung ML-1250 printer
Canon N1240U scanner

Worthy of note is the lack of network issues. File sharing with my HP Media Center PC works as does my printer, which is connected to a D- Link DI-704P router/print server.
Best Regards,
Ronald P. "

" How about "Everything seems perfect". It did "restart" after the initial restart. Then a lot of drive activity for about 5 minutes. Nothing slowed down, or seems to have been broken.
PowerBook G4 1.5GHz (first model with track pad scrolling), 1 GB RAM
Later
SCB "

" Though it may be too early to tell, all is well after the 10.4.7 update. I installed it last night through Software Update, then shut down. This morning I turned my computer on, expecting a slightly longer boot time (as is the case after any OS update), and it booted fine, all my memory is there, and since I don't currently have a printer hooked up to my Mac and since I don't have .Mac or any syncable devices, all I really care about are WebKit, Mail, Adium, iTunes and World of Warcraft. : )
-matt, san francisco "

" 10.4.7 works OK on a G4 450 tower
-Pete N. "

" I updated last night and had major problems. Mainly, booting into some kind of terminal prompt I haven't seen before. It asked for my login but wouldn't accept my normal login. Doing everything I could think of, short of reinstalling OSX 10.4 from my DVD, I finally went to bed. This morning I was all set to reinstall but tried one last time to start it up normally and it worked! This has happened before where I was having problems and let it sit overnight and they disappeared. I haven't reattached my external drives yet. I'll try that this afternoon. I'm running a tower G5 Dual 2.7 with 2.5GB of Ram.
-Jim W. "

" After Combo upgrade to MDD Dual 1.25 MHz G4 I had only one problem. The USB cable from an Apple 20" Cinema display had been connected to a PCI/USB 2.0 card. Manually putting the G4 to sleep worked fine the first time. A second attempt to put the G4 to sleep resulted in the cursor disappearing and a freeze. I disconnected the USB cable from the card and the problem disappeared.
The G4 booted twice after the upgrade.
-Ken "

" I would like to report the following regarding the Mac OS 10.4.7 update:

1. An issue involving the application Artlantis 4.5.6 (architectural photorealistic 3D rendering) running on my iBook G4 was resolved: The application suddenly quitted during launch using the former OS. I had to install a previous 4.5.1 version as work around. A clean reinstallation of the 4.5.6 version, as other maintenance routine did not solved the problem. I must say that other desktop computers at my office, with OS 10.4.6 did not show this fault.

2. The new OS has iSync support for the Sony Ericsson W810i Walkman mobile phone. I did trash a custom made phone plug-in I have used previously as it is no longer needed. iTunes music library sync capabilities could be achieved by using a third party freeware software "iTuneMyWalkman" (http://ilari.scheinin.fidisk.fi/itunemywalkman/).
-Juan C. "

"Missing" RAM after 10.4.7 Update

(added 7/12/2006)
" After the 10.4.7 upgrade, I noticed that my 1.5Ghz PowerBook G4 lost 1/2 of it's ram. Initially, reseating the DIMMS caused it to come back, but the next day it was gone again. After experiencing some locks up and freezes, I spent time swapping memory back and forth. It now turns out that both of my DIMMs are good, but my lower slot is now intermittently bad! I've had my PowerBook in daily use for just over a year now with no issue until the other day (and the serial number is out side the range of Apple's Lower Memory Slot repair program).
BTW, my two DIMMS are 512MB chips that it was ordered with.
HTH, -David R"

(added 7/6/2006)
"I installed a 1gb memory upgrade on Friday - after the upgrade to 10.4.7, for a total of 1.5gb. Last night, I noticed that MenuMeters showed only 1gb, and like your other feedback, System Profiler showed the lower memory slot as empty. I thought that I messed something up installing the new ram, so I opened up the memory compartment, and switched the DIMMS around. I fired it up again, and now I only had 512MB.
I removed both DIMMs, and only replaced the 512mb in the lower slot and left the upper slot empty. I fired it up and OS X correctly identified the memory. I shut it down again, added the 1gb DIMM again and presto, all 1.5GB are up and running. I did all this before 6:00 AM today, and I have not had the chance to see how it fairs after the next reboot.
-Dave"

(added 6/30/2006)
RAM issues:
I have a 12 inch aluminum powerbook with 1.25 gig RAM. After the 10.4.7 update it only recognized the 256 meg, paging the hard drive hard. I rebooted twice and now it's back to normal. Hopefully it'll stay that way, I was worried about having to look for a new chip.
-Tobias

(added 6/29/2006)
"Lost 1GB of RAM over the 10.4.7 update. I had my 15" Alu-PowerBook 1.25 GHz maxed out at 2GB of RAM running with no problems under 10.4.6. Updated to 10.4.7 using Software Update and now it recognizes only 1GB of RAM. Tried the usual maintenance routines (incl. cache cleaning etc.) without success. Didn't try fiddling with the 2 RAM chips yet, that's a job for my authorised Apple centre. Any tips would be very welcome.
Sincerely, Jan "

If you tried the usual tricks like resetting the NVRAM, resetting PMU, reinstalling a combo update, etc. and still no change - do you have another OS X Drive or Disc to boot from? (to see if it shows all the ram) Do you have the Apple Hardware Test CD to run? (I'd try reseating the sodimms also.)
Another PB owner that also 'lost' ram after the update:

(added 6/29/2006)
"I installed 10.4.7 on my 15" PowerBook G4 1.67GHz. I have two 1GB chips installed in the PB. After rebooting, the System Profiler reports only 1GB of RAM and an empty lower slot...
Checked the Apple website
(About the PowerBook G4 (15-inch 1.67/1.5GHz) Memory Slot Repair Extension Program) about lower slot problems, but the s/n for my PB does not match the faulty ones.
Hope this helps.
Best regards, Mathew "

The first PB owner report on 10.4.7/missing ram said swapping the slots didn't help (his 256MB sodimm was reported as 128MB, regardless of slot used) but he later said cleaning contacts solved the problem (see his report below). A Quad G5 owner also said he 'lost' ram after the update, but moving/reseating the dimms solved it.

The first report of 'missing' ram after 10.4.7 update was from a Quad G5 owner, who was able to recover it by moving/reseating the dimms.

" Just upgraded my Quad G5 to 10.4.7 and 'lost' 512MB RAM (pre- installed 2x 256MB, Samsung PC2-4200U-444-12-C3, most inner slots). The 4x 1gb I added later all work fine. System Profiler indicates the slots being empty. Tried rebooting, but the slots stayed 'empty'. I took out the 256MB modules and put them in the remaining empty slots (most outer slots), rebooted and they worked fine again. Next I placed them back in the inner slots and now they also work fine in these slots.
I don't know what caused these modules to temporarily stop working after the update, and why switching helped fixing the problem. I'm glad they are working again!
cheers, Thaumar R. "

Another reader with a PowerBook also reported 'lost ram' but later said cleaning contacts helped.

" I installed 10.4.7 on a 15 inch powerbook G4 (1.67 GHz) with 768 megs of ram (one 512 MB DDR SDRAM Speed: PC2700U-25330 and one 256 MB DDR SDRAM Speed: PC3200U-30330).

After the update everything seems to work fine except my powerbook now only recognizes 640 MB of my installed ram. The 256 MB chip has dropped down to 128 MB. I switched the chips around but the problem remains.
(I asked him if the 256MB sodimm was originaly shipped in the system.)
The 256MB SODIMM is the original Apple memory that shipped with my laptop.
Update: after swapping my ram I started to notice some random freezes so I re-swapped my ram back into their original positions and cleaned the contacts and things are running smoothly again AND all my memory is now recognized. No other problems so far....
James H. "

Earlier this year there were some reports of lower ram slot problems in Powerbooks (see kbase doc above). If anyone else sees anything like this let me know (I didn't see this on my 2003 G5 w/3.5GB RAM after 10.4.7)

Update to Free-1 USB Phone:

" 10.4.7 broke the (relatively unknown but fantastic) IPEVO free-1 USB Skype phone/handset (driver version 1.0.2.2). The cause is unknown - it might be some Core Audio "tweaking" by Apple.

On the other side - I have never seen such a fast and efficient consumer support. They (www.ipevo.com) have a "Skype Me" function on their Contact page and - in less than 15 min - a new version (1.0.2.5 beta of the driver was emailed and it works perfectly - as usual.
I expect other Core Audio apps/drivers to need re-building. Hope this helps,
-Cristian "

.Mac Sync Problems

" G4 MDD 1.2Ghz single CPU, 1.2 Gig, 340GB HD
After installing 10.4.7 from software update, I experienced three or four kernal panics within the first five minutes. after trashing the cache files and repair permissions etc I thought to have a stable system. Then I could not get address book to function. Initially quit when selected preferences and then would not restart. I found an old google maps plugin and removed it - no luck.
Then I noticed ical and safari were flaky also. Eventually I tried turning off .mac syncing and suddenly all is well with the world.
I am not sure, but I think the .mac data was screwed up in the beginning when I experienced all those kernal panics. At this point I have confirmed that turning on .mac syncing either in the system preferences or in address book will immediately cause those programs to crash and will quickly (within 5 minutes) lead to kernal panic.
With syncing off, stable system for two hours and counting. Will try and clean it out and re-enable syncing tomorrow and let you know if problem persists.
-Timothy R. "

Boot Problems: (Check 3rd party startup items)

" I installed the 10.4.7 update via Software Update. After the install my Mac (G5 dual 2.3) rebooted and once everything started up, the Mac was turned off, just like someone shut the electricity off... I pressed the start button again, was watching the grey screen for quite a while and same thing happened again.

Tried one more time and then the grey screen seemed to stay and the fans were blowing at top speed... I shut the Mac down and rebooted in safe mode and switched off my external firewire drive which has a Techtool eDrive... These are the Login Items I have:

• iTunesHelper
• Microsoft AU Daemon
• iCalAlarmScheduler
• iMsafe
• sharkMonitor
• free-1 USB Phone (See notes below on update for 10.4.7-Mike)
• iTunes
• StuffitAVRDaemon
• MagicMenu
• Aspyr Game Agent Helper

I just saw this on Apple Discussions:

" I just used Software update to install 10.4.7. All went fine until the restart. Now all I have gotten for about an hour is the beautiful gray Apple. Nothing happens."

(he later wrote)
My mac is working again...
Not sure what did the trick, but here's the latest:
I threw out the Caches (for user and also in Library on Mac HD) and deleted all startup items. Then rebooted and not this power failure anymore.
So the next thing was to figure out which startup item might have been causing the problem by addind them one by one... I first started iTunes and the screen goes black/the power is cut.
I unplugged the cable from my Harman Kardon soundsticks, unplugged their power, started up the Mac, started iTunes and then it was fine. Plugged the soundsticks back in and now everythings is working... (An old tip for USB device problems (even printers) in the past after OS X updates was to disconnect/reconnect the device. But 3rd party addons are also very common issues with updates - not all are but it's one of the first places to look.-Mike)
I also noticed that in the Sound pref pane, the input jumped to my free-1 USB phone, while iSight was selected, but maybe that's because the driver used to be a startup item and mixed things up. (Note: A reader said 10.4.7 broke the IPEVO free-1 USB Skype phone/handset driver version 1.0.2.2, but that they now have an updated driver (v1.0.2.5 beta) that he was sent via email after using their "Skype Me" function on their Contact page at www.ipevo.com. The driver may be posted there by the time you read this.-Mike)
So my guess is iTunes and my speakers caused this and after unplugging or basically starting over, it's fine again. But I'm not sure at all - is that possible at all?

(he later wrote)
So I thought the problem was solved, but it happened again, just not after a reboot, I've been using my Mac all evening and all of a sudden a black screen without a proper shut down...
I looked in the system log and found this:

Jun 28 00:26:34 localhost kernel[0]: ApplePMU::PMU forced shutdown, cause = -122
(and several similar lines from earlier shut downs)

It happened when I was playing music on iTunes, then started viewing a video on the web and clicked iTunes' pause button, and a second later there was the black screen...

Now I just learned that the PMU is a Power Management Unit, that it's called a System Managment Unit on late 2004 and late 2005 G5's and that it's very easy to reset: just shut down the Mac, unplug the power cord, wait 15 seconds and plug it back in... (old tip for G5 PMU resets) I'll try that for sure :-)
After the update something changed in default audio devices... I don't remember what exactly, but it might have to do with that Ipevo driver that keeps OS X' default devices, except for use with the Ipevo phone. I was still using 1.0.2.0 Ñ I'll ask them for that Beta Thanks again!
-Jeroen P. "

" I am having MAJOR problems with this update.
iMac CD 2.0, 2GB RAM, upgrading from 10.4.6
-Installer was launched from SWU
-Near the end of the update, the Installer crashed.
-The entire OS immediately became VERY unresponsive and apps would not open.
-I tried to reboot, but was hung at the blue screen

-Eventually force-shut-down, and booted from the DVD
-Catalog Errors were reported & repaired
-Startup Disk showed a 10.4.7 volume (bad news bcs this means the system partially installed)
-System would not boot....tried PRAM reset, safe mode, and cursing

-After two attempts, I was able to do an Archive install, back to 10.4.4
-After this, I was able to upgrade to 10.4.7

12" PB 867, 768MB RAM, upgrading from 10.4.6
-The upgrade seemed to go fine
-On prompt, I rebooted
-Now the Mac has been stuck on the Grey screen for almost 45 minutes (I asked if he had any 3rd party startup items installed. Will it boot in 'safe mode'?-Mike)
-I'm not sure if I should try to reboot it, or give it more time.

I hope I'm the only one w/these problems. But, after having 2 out of 3 Macs have trouble (the other iMac CD was ok), I'm skeptical.
(he later wrote)
I don't have any 3rd party startup items installed on either system. Both Macs are now up and running, but my faith in Apple has certainly been shaken.
-Sean M. "

Printer Problems:

" Jesus Christ. I've NEVER had an install break anything.
I had 10.4.7 via software update COMPLETELY BREAK my printing system.
First off, I had 5 or 6 Printers hooked up.
All but ONE were ethernet... and that one was an Epson R220.
IT ERASED THEM ALL! It SEES the printers... but gives me the following error: (see attached pic).

Also tried running the stand alone installer... didn't fix it.
I'm pretty much screwed as this is my Work Machine. WTF???? (I've not had any problems with 10.4.7 so far - but only using local i900D printer (prints fine to it - just did an iphoto printout)
Have you tried disconnecting/reconnecting the printers? (old tip for USB printers at least after an OS update)
Are you using any 3rd party startup items?
Tried the usual voodoo? (reinstall with combo update, repairing permissions, removing any 3rd party addons/startup items, etc.)-Mike)
Yep. Tried all that. The printing system is hosed. Even ran Onyx on it and flushed ALL caches, did ALL maintenance... both after regular upgrade, and after all in one 200+MB upgrade. Grrrr.
Gonna try it on my Intel Macbook Pro (the other was on a 20" Intel iMac)
(he later wrote)
It required a complete re-install (was able to have it import all my stuff) and this fixed the problem.
New update, and the printer works great.
Found this on Apple's Support Site... apparently this is a KNOWN problem, at least for EARLIER versions.
Wonder if this will ever get FIXED?
(Apple kbase doc) Mac OS X: "server-error-service-unavailable" when adding a printer
Thanks, Richard H. "

Not everyone had the problem but then I wish I had $1 for every OS X update problem report I've had since OS X was first released (most are not 100% common) - I could buy apple literally.
BTW - have you ever run the Profile first aid from the ColorSync Utility (in apps/utilities) - last time I did it found over a dozen profiles (printers, displays, etc.) that needed repair.
There's also a 'preferential treatment' utility (IIRC the name) that checks for corrupted prefs but that may not be the problem. (just throwing out some ideas...)

" 10.4.7 seems to have caused me an Airport problem. G5 Dual 2.5Ghz with Airport extreme card will not connect to my Netgear DG834PN. I was using WPA, tried WEP and with no encryption. "There was an error joining the Airport Network......" is the result of all attempts to connect.
Exactly the same issue on an iBook G3 700Mhz with Airport Card. (I mentioned I'd not seen any airport problems after the 10.4.7 update. he later wrote)
Panic seems to be over. After numerous restarts on both machines, they are now connecting. Interested to know if this issue affected anyone else.
Regards,
Kevan G.
Fix My Mac "

10.4.7 Breaks CPU Director version 2.3b4 As I warned users in the news post last night when 10.4.7 was released, every tiger update so far has broken the current CPU Director version and this one does also. I've asked Jamie at OWC to send a note when there's an update for 10.4.7.

" Bi-processor 1.8 Powermac, 2 Gbites memory So far I had to restart two times to get rid of the spinning ball and this combo update wrote on the Tiger volume:
36 swf files , gifs for a total of 87 files that cannot be opened with any programs.
-Philippe T. "