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Upgrading a 1st Gen Mac Pro w/Xeon 5365's (3GHz CloverTowns)
I had a mail this morning from a reader asking about this upgrade (chip swap). Since fall 2006 (when the Clovertown's were first released) I've posted info/links here on Quad core X53xx series (aka Clovertown) CPU swaps in 1st Gen Mac Pros and don't see why the 3GHz CPUs wouldn't also work, although previous reports were on 2.66Ghz (5355's) or slower (or faster 51xx series dual-core CPUs) - I suspect due to cost of the 3GHz CPUs.
If any readers have upgraded their 1st Gen Mac Pro with 3GHz Clovertown/5365's, let me know.
There's been several posts here this year in the news page (and in the searchable CPU upgrades database) on 1st gen Mac Pro/Clovertown CPU upgrades, usually from readers that bought used CPUs from ebay - although one reader bought a used HP server and took the CPUs out of it, then put the 1st gen Mac Pro CPUs in the HP server and sold it. (And one reader noted reselling his original Mac Pro dual-core CPUs to offset the cost a bit.) The July 10th post (also linked on the Macs/Systems page) includes links to guides on swapping the CPUs.

Of course upgrades like this always raise the question if it's worth it (i.e. putting a lot of money into upgrades for an older model vs selling it and getting a later model (either used or refurb) with faster CPUs, ram, system bus, PCIe 2.0, etc.) so earlier this morning when I recd that email I checked eBay for X5365 CPU sales and saw one auction that had them for $395 each (free shipping - claimed to be 'server spares/tested good') - but after getting pulled away to fix a water leak - this afternoon I refreshed the eBay search and that auction was no longer listed. (With the lowest price now listed at $599.) At $1200 (for a dual CPU swap, not counting the potential risk) I'd consider what the Mac Pro as-is would bring if sold and then add that $1200 to that figure and see what that total $$$$ would buy as far as a used 2008 or a used/refurb 2009 Mac Pro.
BTW - the reader that sent the question later wrote he's the guy that bought the last one of those $395 X5365's at eBay I saw earlier today. (The seller had only one left unfortunately.)

Update - a reply recd on Friday:

"Yes, I've upgraded my '06 Mac Pro with two Xeon 5365s (bought from EBay for $400 each). Works great. Attached are screenshots of the About This Mac (running 10.6.1) and System Profiler screens.

For more complete/later info from Robert, see the October 2nd news post on
3GHz Clovertowns (Quad-Core X5365s) in 2006 Mac Pro.

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Anyone else see A/V Sync problems w/EyeTV for iPhone app?
From a reader mail today - not tested this personally but if anyone else sees any A/V sync problems (or not) let me know.

"EyeTV iPhone app and 3.2 update
Nice picture as your linked review (yesterday's link to totalapp's Review of EyeTV app for iPhone) points out, but audio is about 1/2 second out of sync! As you're doubtless aware, this spoils a movie completely.
I know you have a contact at Elgato so wonder if they've had any similar reports?
(I'll write him to ask but first have some questions - see below.-Mike) Tested so far on Mac mini, 1.6Ghz C2D, (EyeTV App notes C2D (or better) reqd for streaming server) 2 Gig's Ram, 10.6.1. I see my wife's G4 is a no no for iPhone TV serving :-(

(I asked for more details (i.e. what iPhone or Touch model he was using (as later models have faster CPU/GPU, etc.), info on wireless network speeds, etc.))
I bought an iPhone 3G last year, now my wife's, thinking it was a good excuse/reason to get a 3GS, so we've got both, and it's slightly better (but not much) on the 3GS. Both 3G & 3GS exhibit the out of sync problem.

I've also just bought a new router (our Linksys wag354 fried whilst we were away on holiday last week), an Apple Airport Extreme (802.11N) running firmware 7.4.2 (used with DSL modem).

(What media are you playing (recordings? Live TV?) - or does all playback have the problem?)
So far only Live TV sourced from Elgato's own "DTT stick", a USB DVB-T (the European MPEG2 digital broadcast video standard) receiver.

(Does recorded content (from EyeTV 3.2) have A/V sync OK if played back on the Mac?)
I have recorded a broadcast, but will need to convert it to H.264 to suit iPhone playback, so will do that & let you know tomorrow if sync is an issue with that.

BTW, since my earlier email, the A/V sync has become worse - about 2 seconds now, so it's a real turn off!
Thanks Mike, John"

If anyone else has seen this (or not) let me know. (And include info on your streaming server specs, iPhone/Touch model, etc.. Thanks.)
ElGato also has user discussion forums at

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EyeTV 3.2 update (fully Snow Leopard compatible, bug fixes, improvements, EyeTV app support)
Update via in-app check. Here's the info from ElGato's EyeTV 3.2 update page:

"This update improves compatibility and overall stability, and is recommended for all EyeTV users.
Snow Leopard Compatibility
EyeTV 3.2 is fully compatible with Snow Leopard. Versions 3.0 through 3.0.4 are not compatible with Snow Leopard, please update before upgrading to Snow Leopard.

Your EyeTV on your iPhone
EyeTV 3.2 adds support for EyeTV for iPhone ($4.99) which lets you watch, record, and enjoy live and recorded TV from your Mac at home, on your iPhone or iPod touch.
To enable EyeTV for iPhone, open the iPhone tab in the EyeTV Preferences.

Bug Fixes

  • Turbo.264 HD users can now access the Turbo custom options when exporting from EyeTV.
  • Fixed a crash when using the digital audio output.
  • Fixed missing commands in AppleScript dictionary.
  • Improved H.264 playback with certain channels.
  • Improved tuning for both DVB-S and DVB-S2 with EyeTV Sat and Terratec S7
  • Fix default sort order and improved channel assignments on several different channels.
  • Fix a problem where EyeTV Sat could not manually add DVB-S2 channels.
  • Reception improvements with the EyeTV DTT.
  • Improved localizations.

    System Requirements
    EyeTV 3.2 is a Universal application. It requires a Macintosh computer with built-in USB 2.0 ports, and Mac OS X 10.4.11 (Tiger) or later. We recommend Mac OS X 10.6.1 or later with all software and security updates installed."

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    Mac Beta of Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning (Retail release Oct. 28th)
    Missed this earlier but Eddie sent a FYI that EA's site has a post Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning for Mac due October 28 saying "WAR for Mac will be Available via Digital Download for $19.95; Beta Version Available Now for Download to Current Players, New Mac Users."
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